well as the title says really. Hoping the washer is fixed tuesday, i can't bear sposies. So went back to itti's today. I found if done up with one popper space between tabs as in the middle popper has nothing on it, we don't get wing droop! That's with mediums and larges on mr T. I wanna know if this works for others, do let me know. Does make the large a bit loose on the waist but no wing droop made me smile. Little things eh?